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48 minutes ago

Re: The New Council, by sshm

. . . and return of Blue Laws ( yippeee, no laundry on Sundays!).

-wyatt1sc



Actually Wyatt ...

We can't and will not return the Blue Laws. Read over state law carefully. There is no provision present to provide for the return of them. Once a county has voted to be rid of them, thats it - gone - never to return.

The law ... such a pesky thing. Wink


- SSHM
48 minutes ago

Re: The New Council, by sshm

. . . and return of Blue Laws ( yippeee, no laundry on Sundays!).

-wyatt1sc



Actually Wyatt ...

We can't and will not return the Blue Laws. Read over state law carefully. There is no provision present to provide for the return of them. Once a county has voted to be rid of them, thats it - gone - never to return.

The law ... such a pesky thing. Wink


- SSHM
1 hour ago

Re: The New Council, by non-sequitur

New Year... Same old refrain. At least let Council have a meeting or two before you trash how the meetings are conducted.
15 hours ago

Re: The New Council, by republikin

Wyatt gets it!

15 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by republikin


How funny, the government is reimbursing C Wilsons lawyer fees? How does her lawyer feel about that? I bet he's not happy. I am sorry to say I will not be getting any of Obama's incentives either.

-1-opinion

I'd guess her lawyers would be wishing they had charged more for all the bad advice they gave her.

16 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by 1-opinion

How funny, the government is reimbursing C Wilsons lawyer fees? How does her lawyer feel about that? I bet he's not happy.  I am sorry to say I will not be getting any of Obama's incentives either.
16 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by wyatt1sc

Maybe I-op should apply for a bailout........

C'mon now. The Guv'ment is ready to hand out nearly $1.2 T-R-I-L-L-I-O-N dollars as incentive. Am sure you could get your hands on some for Cindy's lawyer fees. Think of it as an investment in our future ( council).

17 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by 1-opinion

Aw come on JD I get a 3 year rabies shot regularly. No I do not speak for them I listen to them. You on the other hand and a few other refuse to even hope there is the possibility for reason with the new Council. Have you actually sat down and listened to one of these men or asked what their plans are? If so share the conversation.

I have said I thought R Wilson would come around. I have also said I do not see Floyd being able to do that. What is you you think I want for Anderson other than actual progress with some planning and common sense?

Is it possible a man I believe has some common sense actually thinks in a deep recession giving another holiday  was fiscally prudent? Coming on the heels of the rape of the budget to pay off a threat, it was simply bad judgment. If this were your business and the financial future was unknown would you spend a penny more than you had to or plan for leaner times? 
17 hours ago

Re: The New Council, by wyatt1sc

I've Met TWO of three already, seperately and together.  And am unimpressed with their lack of concern for (poor)citizens, community involvement, non-political contributors to their district and being pro-active in crime, business generation and planning for decreased revenue in an increasingly demanding county. They've spent the last 6 months preparing all right...preparing to serve the rich and exclusive needs of those which contributed to their coffers.  Mr. Dunn has a h-u-g-e chip on his shoulders against the fire department leadership in Homeland Park, and said directly he would NOT support the efforts of them and looks to disband them altogether ( which is illegal and endangers the community....).  Mr. Moore has yet to return a call from us concerning future planning and community interests which directly affect his district.  While JD suggested they were "busy"(since November 12th?), I suggest it is because Homeland park, Iva, Belton and Honea Path represent poor political advancement possibilities, and do not provide them the political opportunities this kind of politician offers our very community. In essence, Another Blagojevic.

 From what Ive heard & seen of their actions so far, they will be MORE concerned with creating an alliance with MCW and Waldrep to overturn ANY issues proposed which Floyd or R. Wilson SUPPORT as a spite.  As for the inept suggestion of reviewing and ammending current regulations, laws and policies......what a waste indeed of council's true purpose: To enact positive and productive efforts to enrich and invigorate this county.  All that will do is retrograde and demean moral, chase off any businesses looking here, produce tax increases to fund pet projects in affluent areas, and likely result in another tsunami of lawsuits ( with no money left to waste on attorneys) by employees, citizens harmed by inaction, and return of Blue Laws ( yippeee, no laundry on Sundays!). An incoming member should NOT be the choice for Chair, but a seasoned veteran.  I know Ms. Floyd is NOT interested in being Chair again, so that leaves Mr. Wilson or Ms. Wilson or ( wakey-wakey) Mr. Waldrep again. I so look forward to those 4 hour meetings.......NOT!

17 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by republikin


Aw, c'mon, Republikin. Your logic is the same as that used by the burglar who claims he just HAD to break into that house because somebody kept locking the doors on him. Yes, Joey Preston probably left in part because of the forced accountability, but FIVE MEMBERS of a SEVEN-MEMBER COUNCIL made the decisions that led to the $1.14 million buyout of his contract, not TWO members of the minority.

Time for everybody on both sides in Anderson County to face reality. The reality is the old majority was arrogant and far from transparent in its actions and motives, while the new Council is apparently going to be vicious and vindictive. It's not going to be pretty in Anderson County until one side or the other lets go of the past and decides to move on to the business of the people.

-jdtippett

Aw, c'mon JD. The point is a majority of councilmembers saw a threat of a lawsuit and given the record made a decision to buy out the administrator.
I belive Preston got a good pay off but a raw deal. No evidence of wrong-doing and threats all over the county that he was going to be out when the new council came in. No matter how it gets spun, W/W were the cause of it. Therefore, I hold them responsible.

17 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by republikin


Aw, c'mon, Republikin. Your logic is the same as that used by the burglar who claims he just HAD to break into that house because somebody kept locking the doors on him. Yes, Joey Preston probably left in part because of the forced accountability, but FIVE MEMBERS of a SEVEN-MEMBER COUNCIL made the decisions that led to the $1.14 million buyout of his contract, not TWO members of the minority.

Time for everybody on both sides in Anderson County to face reality. The reality is the old majority was arrogant and far from transparent in its actions and motives, while the new Council is apparently going to be vicious and vindictive. It's not going to be pretty in Anderson County until one side or the other lets go of the past and decides to move on to the business of the people.

-jdtippett

Aw, c'mon JD, you continue to buy into the MCW/Waldrip line of it's about FOI.
It was NEVER about FOI or about the public. It was always about Wilson/Waldrip
wanting to control or get rid of Preston. Control, as we've discussed and the Supreme Court agreed, is a matter for the entire council or at least a majority of council. But, that's over. My point is that without the Wilson/Waldrep cabal and to some extent the threat of incoming councilmembers agenda to get rid of Preston (no, they never said it, but we all knew). That scenerio gave the "wicked five" the opening to structure a buyout and one-up the W/W faction. W/W got what they wanted but not how they hoped.
For my money, Preston earned the buyout. Regardless, he got it. The Joey haters can wish and hope all they want, they ain't getting it back.

18 hours ago

Re: Wake up, by pappy


You are missing the point. A fundamental change needs to take place in this country.

The federal government needs to allow the auto industry to put all union contracts on hold.

Auto makers need to consolidate and stop making 300 variations of the same model.

Bailouts should not be bailouts, but a purchase of equity (shares) in ANY institution (bank, mortgage co, airline, auto manf). There should be a pool of solid business people that the gov would pull from to sit on the boards and treat it like a business deal.

We need to become competitive in manufacturing. We need to maintain a strong defense and we need a civilian corp. This would be supported by a redesign of the education system. For those people that want to go to college, have a college prep choice, for those that want a trade, a trade choice, armed services and public service with the same choices.

Nobody gets welfare without working for it. They can be a branch of the civilian corp.

I know some will disagree but, pull the troops out of Iraq and Afgan, put them on our borders, at our sea ports and air ports.

Work on becoming a little more self sufficient instead of almost entirely relying China, OPEC etc to keep us afloat.

-straightup





Under your scenario, the Government will decide on labor contracts and buy into any industry/company that needs a bailout.

Oops, ‘a bailout should not be a bailout’ you write.

Well then what exactly do you think buying an equity position in a public corporation or a private operation should be called.?

Your solution sounds more like creeping socialism than self-sufficiency.Frown
18 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by jdtippett


Perhaps the new Council isn't being vindictive but actually going to perform their campaign promises and have the audit? 

-1-opinion

Perhaps, 1-Opinion. But if you and Prevail have been speaking for them - or if they have been taking advice from you two rabid scapegoaters - vindictive is what it is going to be. No more, no less, and to the detriment of the long-term future of Anderson County.

I keep hoping some adults from both sides will step forward, forge a truce and take honest steps to rescue the county from this never-ending cycle of one upsmanship, but so far I'm still looking for those adults. Ron Wilson tried, and we see where it got him.

18 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by 1-opinion

Perhaps the new Council isn't being vindictive but actually going to perform their campaign promises and have the audit? Maybe they will even reverse some of the Ordinances that allegedly gave Preston so much latitude to do as he pleased. They may even make the Administrator accountable to the Council as he/she is supposed to be. They might look at ways to reduce the size of our budget by consolidating and contracting? They could also look at ways to actually have/improve our economic development and bring in industry, improve infrastructure and bring planned growth to the county? Maybe they will expect employees to have accountability for job performance?

If that is vindictive I am all for it. If in all this it comes out that there was some misuse of our funds then that's the cost of transparency. I think that is what is most feared here. "Those Driver people" might actually have had some reason for what they believe and people like republikin would rather poke out her eyes and go deaf than find out she was not 100% correct.

From republikins post I have this vision of all Council members shuffling into the Administrators office and all repeating in unison a request, then shuffling out. You have never been in an administrative position for senior staff I take it? LOL You might be asked to find answers to multiple questions by different management members.

Let's see what their actions and demeanor are this year. I will be sadly disappointed if the tide is simply reversed and payback is the plan. From conversations with the three new Councilmen they have said that is not their intention. One way or the other, we will see.
20 hours ago

'HUMANS' - Who needs them? , by citizen1

What have WE done to the Earth?

20 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by jdtippett

Aw, c'mon, Republikin. Your logic is the same as that used by the burglar who claims he just HAD to break into that house because somebody kept locking the doors on him. Yes, Joey Preston probably left in part because of the forced accountability, but FIVE MEMBERS of a SEVEN-MEMBER COUNCIL made the decisions that led to the $1.14 million buyout of his contract, not TWO members of the minority.

Time for everybody on both sides in Anderson County to face reality. The reality is the old majority was arrogant and far from transparent in its actions and motives, while the new Council is apparently going to be vicious and vindictive. It's not going to be pretty in Anderson County until one side or the other lets go of the past and decides to move on to the business of the people.

21 hours ago

Oh... please,won't you help??, by skydash

22 hours ago

Re: PRESTON(CUNNINGHAM) VS WILSON/WALDREP RULEING, by republikin

republikin almost everyone puts a certain "spin" on their posts. But for you to blame the unwarrented Preston buyout on Bob Waldrep and Cindy Wilson boggles the mind. I suppose the Gang of 5 were just innocent bystanders?

-nomadron

Without the threats, intimidation and abuse from MCW and Bob Waldrip, (not to mention the innuendo coming from newly elected councilmen) Mr. Preston would still be administrator. Thus, no buyout, no $1.14 Million spent.
IT'S THEIR FAULT ! Did they want the money spent on a buy out ? Beats me, but they sure did their best to push Preston out. The way I see it, they caused it ! The other council members made it happen in order to be fair to Mr. Preson and to keep the county from another huge lawsuit. Given Preston's record in the courts (Preston 14 / Wilson 0) who would want to take a gamble on another lawsuit? Frankly,the so-called five, were innocent bystanders, who got handed the MCW mess to clean up.

23 hours ago

Re: Wake up, by sshm

Auto makers need to consolidate and stop making 300 variations of the same model.

-straightup



As I don't have enough time to totally address this post, I'll just leave something to contemplate in reference to straightup's quote above:

2008 Ford Focus (US Model)
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2008-Ford-Focus-50.jpg

2008 Ford Focus (European Model)
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2008_ford_focus_euro-thumb.jpg

2008 Ford Focus Convertible (European Model)
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/focus_cc_09.jpg

Now ... supposedly ... in 2010, Ford will finally use the jaws of life and extract it's head from it's arse to make ... *shudder* ... cool cars on a ... wait for it ... GLOBAL PLATFORM. Before I run along, take a look at this model Focus and ask yourself this: Why isn't Ford using THIS MODEL to beat the SNOT out of the Civic/Corola/etc crowd?

This is a FORD!! (that will likely make it to production unscathed)
http://jalopnik.com/5106242/2009-ford-focus-rs-im-blue

Enjoy ... more commentary to follow.


- SSHM
23 hours ago

Re: Wake up, by jdtippett

In short, Straightup, you're asking us to become one, big giant North Korea? Surprised
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