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I just got home and got a piece of mail that says Raymond MacKay voted in the Democratic Presidential Primary in January.

What the heck was he thinking? The mail piece infers that he voted for Obama or Clinton. This is disturbing. I voted for him on Tuesday, but I am re-thinking my choice. Raymond's mail states that he is a lifelong Republican. Lifelong Republicans don't vote for Democrats, especially when we had a contested Presidential Primary the week before.

Here's what I want to know, did Raymond MacKay actually vote in the democratic primary? If he did, why?

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Rush Limbaugh told him to?

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you must be referring to "Operation Chaos". That little trick by Limbaugh was thought up well after McCain had the republican nomination sewn up. If I am not mistaken it started in May.

This mail piece said MacKay voted for Obama or Hillary in January. A week after the republican primary.

So what made Raymond MacKay vote democrat? Why Obama or Hillary? Will he vote for them in November?

This is a legit question. Maybe he needs to confirm or deny voting in the democratic primary or at least qualify why he did it, if he did.

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Who sent out that piece of mail? Did it come from the Waldrop campaign or from one of those infamous groups for responsible whatever? That would tell me whether to give that particular piece any credence. How do they know? Do they have the polling sign in sheet? Just wondering. Sounds like campaign scare tactics to me.

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Good question, Merrymacsc. The piece said "paid for by Bob Waldrep, 116 W. Whitner street, Anderson, SC"

So, I guess it is Bob Waldrep, and not some bogus group.

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What's the big deal if he did? I'm a Democrat and have voted in GOP primaries. I voted for the person I'd like to see in a general election.

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Merrymacsc,

Does it not bother you that someone who declared himself a "democrat" suddenly becomes a "republican". It bothers me. But I think we need proof, either by Mr. MacKays admission or proof from the Waldrep campaign.

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WinkYank
Even Strom Thurmond was a Democrat at one time.
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Isn't he dead? He also had an illegitimate black daughter, that he refused to recognize. He was a segregationist and a racist.

I don't really think he is a good example.

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Yankeefan, yes, Strom Thurmond had an illegitimate daughter, but he DID NOT refuse to recognize her. He even put her through college (S.C. State.) What he DIDN'T do is acknowledge publicly that he had an illegitimate daughter, although, might I add, it wasn't the best-kept secret on the face of the planet.

And, yes, he was a segregationist at one time, and probably a stereotyplical racist. But by the time of his death, he had changed. Like Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, who was actually at one time a membership recruiter for the KKK, men change. You need to judge them by what is ultimately in their hearts and the TOTALITY of their work, not just is what on their public records from a half century ago.

At least one of our founding fathers (Thomas Jefferson) also reportedly fathered a child out of wedlock (does the name Sally Hemmings ring any bells?), Benjamin Franklin was a sexist playboy DAWG. They all accepted slavery, although some of them did express reservations about it.

Strom Thurmond did a lot for the State of South Carolina over the years, and while many would like to point to the U.S. Senate as the driving force behind the end of institutionalize segregation in the fact of strong opposition from SOUTHERN Democrats, Sen. Brooke of Massachusets actually became the first African-American U.S Senator since Reconstruction only in the late 1960s or early 1970s. (In case you missed it, he was the one who was fooling around with Barbara Walters, as she admitted in her recent book.) And when it came time for those massive race riots many so feared, they took place not in places like Atlanta and Birmingham, but in places like Boston, and Detroit, and Los Angeles.

Judge Sen. Thurmond by the totality of his life and his accomplishments, please, just as you would judge former Sen. Fritz Hollings, who has always been a Southern Conservative Democrat. Hollings, you know, was the Governor of South Carolina who put that Confederate Battle Flag above the State House in the early 1960s anyway. He was also a segregationist, but he grew, and he changed, and he accepted.

It was a different time, and it is both both difficult and unfair to judge mid-20th Century political figures through 21st Century eyes. And for Republicans who used to be Southern Democrats, Strom Thurmond is a very good example.

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I asked the question, because I knew the answer. Strom Thurmond didn't change overnight or within a matter of a couple of weeks. But it seems that Raymond MacKay did. If Mr. MacKay is a democrat, why not man-up and run as a democrat?

I also asked those pointed questions to Merrymacsc, because she's crazy if she thinks she can compare Raymond MacKay to Strom Thurmond. Ms. MacAbee is a little misguided right now, hopefully she will find her way soon.

I voted for MacKay the first time, but this mail piece if true, and I am not sure how to prove it, will change my vote to Bob Waldrep.

I hope Mr. MacKay will come on this blog and deny or admit he did this. I think it is an important question going into the run-off.

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Thank you JD.  What has SC come to where even today's R's will disparage Strom Thurmond.  Who's next Ronald Reagan?????Surprised
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You will really cross the line if you compare MacKay to Ronald Reagan.

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Yank  I am not misguided neither have I lost my way.  I am certainly not crazy.  I did not compare Raymond to either Thurmond or Reagan.  I simply made some observations.  Unless you or Bob or any other member have proof that Mackay voted in the Democrat Presidential primary, the accusation is just that an accusation that Waldrep's campaign has used to whip up frenzied support for their candidate.  I would take the mail piece with a grain of salt.  Consider the source making it and move on.  And before anyone jumps up and says I am a Raymond MacKay supporter, I am talking in generalities.  I know both Raymond and Bob.  They are both fine men.  I just don't know in which primary either of these gentelman voted in January.  For all I know Yankee you could have voted in the Democrat Presidential Primary or even worse, you could have not voted at all.  
As far as my comments about Strom Thurmond, it was just that a passing comment.  Both JD and John have addressed your trashing of Senator Thurmond.  You should be ashamed.    And by the way, even Ronald Reagan was a Democrat.  And to some people both those transformations were overnight turn arounds.  
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You need to talk to some of the police officers who were working with the Anderson Police Department when MacKay was a city judge then if you want to know The Real Raymond MacKay. MacKay didn't last long there. Talk to George Ducworth too. I heard that your hubby has a job waiting for him at the Economic Development Department. Most of the people who support MacKay rely on Preston for some sort of goodie.

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Sounds like desperation by Waldrep. I'd try to change the subject too if I were him. The voters of his "progressive" district are getting ready to send him into well deserved retirement with a swift kick in the a-- on June 24th. Bob the former Democrat turned Republican is quite the chameleon. Not only did Bob get elected as a Democrat and then switch parties while in office, he more recently got elected as a progressive in a progressive County Council district then allied himself with Cindy Wilson, Rick Driver and the anti-progressive crowd. You can't trust Bob Waldrep.

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I think how somebody offering for County Council votes for President is just completely irrelevant to this race. Perhaps John Edwards is his cousin. Who gives crap? Somebody can be a lifelong Republican and have convictions about a particular candidate running for President. The Presidential primary is a one person one shot deal. I'd much prefer to have a candidate who votes his convictions than a prisoner to a party label. Better stick to the issues Bob. Or better still, just concede. In two years on Council you have proven that you can't be trusted.

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flash...meet john cleese.

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It is not irrelevant to vote in the democratic presidential primary.

how could anyone possibly know and state as a fact how somebody voted? just askin'

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